Laketempest 2011/07/06 23:13
According to my faith & belief (islam) Allah is the creator of heaven, earth, hell, stars, sky, all living things. All creation is untimately based on almighty Allah's wish. Im not sure what other religions may define hell's creation on. But it is my firm belief that hell was created as the place where those who were evil in their earthly existance should go after the day of judgement. And heaven is the place where the good ones will be rewarded for their good deeds during their earthly existance.
So the answer to your question is NO, the devil is not the creator of hell according to what i believe in.
According to my faith & belief (islam) Allah is the creator of heaven, earth, hell, stars, sky, all living things. All creation is untimately based on almighty Allah's wish. Im not sure what other religions may define hell's creation on. But it is my firm belief that hell was created as the place where those who were evil in their earthly existance should go after the day of judgement. And heaven is the place where the good ones will be rewarded for their good deeds during their earthly existance.
So the answer to your question is NO, the devil is not the creator of hell according to what i believe in.
SpArKo 2011/07/07 05:23
I dont know the facts behind it, but in various dramas i've seen the devils as manager of hell, so could be that devils were the creators too. Otherwise why would God create hell and then pass it on to devils to manage?
I dont know the facts behind it, but in various dramas i've seen the devils as manager of hell, so could be that devils were the creators too. Otherwise why would God create hell and then pass it on to devils to manage?
ACIDized 2011/07/07 07:01
Every religion has its own theory.
The question is does that place really exist?
Every religion has its own theory.
The question is does that place really exist?
Kumz 2011/07/07 11:28
Where does it mention that god created hell? As far as I know, the bible doesn't mention it. Yet to find out in quran.
Where does it mention that god created hell? As far as I know, the bible doesn't mention it. Yet to find out in quran.
mutant_bunny 2011/07/07 15:32
Not sure what most religions say about Hell. According to what i know - Christianity, the devil can't create anything. God didn't create Hell for humans, he created Hell for the devil. I would say sin created the Hell we will go to, just like sin created death. There is no mention of God creating death or Hell for humans in the 7days He created the world - life. Adam and Eve weren't made to die, so Hell could not have been created for humans.
Not sure what most religions say about Hell. According to what i know - Christianity, the devil can't create anything. God didn't create Hell for humans, he created Hell for the devil. I would say sin created the Hell we will go to, just like sin created death. There is no mention of God creating death or Hell for humans in the 7days He created the world - life. Adam and Eve weren't made to die, so Hell could not have been created for humans.
mutant_bunny 2011/07/07 16:35
Quote: outlaw: Who created the rule that if Adam/Eve decided to have a little harmless fun, it would create death, sin, hellfire and all that jazz?
the same thing that created the difference between good and bad? Going to jail works on the same principle as going to hell, sin and death. Murder created jail just as much as sin created Hell. Both jail and hell is you being punished and being held responsible for what you choose to do.
mutant_bunny 2011/07/07 17:36
Quote: outlaw: But you see, unlike God, society takes full responsibility for creating jails. Society doesn't say there were never meant to be any jails, but someone committed murder one day and jails were magically created. Murder doesn't punish itself. But you seem to imply that sin does. Unless what you're really trying to say is that it is in fact God who created Eternal Tortureâ„¢ to punish sin, but doesn't want to get his hands dirty by associating his good name with it, so he invented this philosophical "sin created hell" cop-out.
If murder created jails in the same way sin created hell, then the creator is clearly God. I wonder why people have trouble saying it clearly. Maybe because in their hearts they know Eternal Torture is evil?
God did create Hell.... Its not hard to say at all. Hell is still here and its purpose is eternal torture. There is no candy coating that. My point was not that jail magically created itself, my point was that if it wasn't for sin there would be no hell, if there was no laws to break there would be no prison to go to. Sin punishes itself? No, that was not what i was trying to say. What is your problem exactly, the fact that there is a thing as sin or the fact that the wicked will punished, strikes you as far fetched? And lets clear up the eternal torture trade mark, it is not a physical torture. The mind will be tortured and taunted. Hell fire is used to describe Hell but it has been painted as looking up at heaven, seeing God, freedom and all the pleasures heaven has to offer, being able to smell, see and hear paradise but not being able to touch or experience it. Thats the Christian Hell. . .not the jin with the pitchfork one.
If murder created jails in the same way sin created hell, then the creator is clearly God. I wonder why people have trouble saying it clearly. Maybe because in their hearts they know Eternal Torture is evil?
mutant_bunny 2011/07/07 19:50
Quote: Kumz: Where does it mention that god created hell? As far as I know, the bible doesn't mention it. Yet to find out in quran.
matthew 25:14. I'm assuming though.
Kumz 2011/07/07 20:09
Quote: mutant_bunny: Typo. . . 25:41.
Matthew 25:41 says it was prepared for the devil and his angels.
Lelsi 2011/07/07 20:22
I agree with minister-sinister, every religion has its own theory and explanation, and we know what we have been taught. I personally don't think of it much, because things which are happening nowadays are what we can call earthly hell, if you just take a look at the natural disasters-one earthquake destroys what one have been building whole life,it leave behind thousands of dead, sick and homeless, and not to talk about social problems that a mankind is facing with.
I agree with minister-sinister, every religion has its own theory and explanation, and we know what we have been taught. I personally don't think of it much, because things which are happening nowadays are what we can call earthly hell, if you just take a look at the natural disasters-one earthquake destroys what one have been building whole life,it leave behind thousands of dead, sick and homeless, and not to talk about social problems that a mankind is facing with.
mutant_bunny 2011/07/08 10:13
Quote: Kumz: Matthew 25:41 says it was prepared for the devil and his angels.
prepared. . Made?. . Like i said i assumed.
mutant_bunny 2011/07/08 10:15
Quote: Abhishek:
You know actually, there is no clear difference between good and bad. Good and bad are subjective, don't you think?
And yeah one more thing, everyone deserves another chance, even after death.
there is no clear difference between good and bad, no, i don't think so. There is a big difference, and the lowest of IQ's can easily spot that difference. . . I'm all for a second chance after death. This however is about Hell according to religion. Unless you know of a devil outside of it. You know actually, there is no clear difference between good and bad. Good and bad are subjective, don't you think?
And yeah one more thing, everyone deserves another chance, even after death.
Kumz 2011/07/08 10:53
Quote: mutant_bunny: prepared. . Made?. . Like i said i assumed.
Well... It does somewhat imply that hell was made by god... Doesn't say it was made for human sinners...
_dreamprince_ 2011/07/09 04:12
@outlaw i don't understand this "those who
work on Sundays, those
who worship idols, etc."
here u mean those who work on sundays wil go to hell but GOD BUT sundays r not made by GOD the days were named by ppl and how can u say those who pray idols wil go to hell but whats the reason
@outlaw i don't understand this "those who
work on Sundays, those
who worship idols, etc."
here u mean those who work on sundays wil go to hell but GOD BUT sundays r not made by GOD the days were named by ppl and how can u say those who pray idols wil go to hell but whats the reason
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#78 Faith/Beliefs
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